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2P or not 2P, that is the question

How often do we look to start a project as it will be relatively simple to do before we tackle something more challenging but then find it wasn’t quite as simple as we thought? Well, for me this seems to be a recurring theme and this is one such example; albeit one that is largely self inflicted!

I wanted a fairly simple loco to have finished quickly and I thought the Hornby 2P would make a simple wheel swap conversion. And so it would be if I could accept a few compromises – my problem was that once I started it, I came to the conclusion that I couldn’t.

The first problem is that whilst the loco body had an upgrade within the last decade or so, the tender was not only from the last millenium, but not even near the end of it! It is very crude and the thickness of the parts suggests that it was made from left over armour plating from a Dreadnought. It had to go, but that story will be for a future blog post. Instead, we move to the second problem – having decided I could tolerate the narrow frames and crude bogie, I changed my mind. To be fair to myself, I blame Rumney Models for introducing some rather nice LMS loco bogies and I could not very well fit one without also attending to the wider chassis. So, an order went in to Comet for their chassis and my simple quick project ceased to be!

Of course, I then decided to make it a tad more difficult for myself by deciding to include CSB suspension. Actually, I don’t agree with that (admittedly regular) accusation as I find that once it is set up properly – which with the High Level jig, CSB chassis are quite easy. So once this was set up it was time to set up the chassis – I did this by initially laminating the two faces of the coupling rods together “in the usual manner” but I deliberatly used a high melt solder. This enabled me to also then solder the two coupling rods to each other with a lower grade of solder without the fear that the laminate would come unstuck later. This was done prior to the opening out of the crankpin holes – which i did on the piller drill so they were formed as a perfect pair. This is then where we got to:

You will see that I have used High Level hornblocks but have attached the cosmetic springs to them. Not my idea but a really neat solution to acheive one of my key expectations of a chassis which is that the wheels are capable of being removed. I do this so that I can get the wheels in and the chassis operational at an early stage but can then remove them later whilst the the remaining detail is added without flux leaking onto the steel components or damaging the wheels. It also has the advantage that they can be removed for painting and future maintenance.

CSB stands for “continous springy beams” and these can be seen in the above image as the wire that it spanning from anchor posts on the frames and across a tag on the top of the pair of hornblocks. They act about half way between compensation – because as one side is defelected, it pushes up on the other side – and also springing because the wire also gives a little. Once set up, they are very effective and if you decide that the height is not quite right, the tags can be adjusted to raise or lower the height of the axlebox and the wire thickness can be changed to make them softer or harder to suit.

The axlebox spacings was achieved by way of the use of a chassis jig which I will do a post on in the future, as it is well worth understanding. Having set out the axleboxes, the two frames could be assembled (again using the chassis jig to ensure the axles are perpendicular to the frames. We now have the basics of the chassis made.

And now, by adding some mounting points that matched the screw holes in the Hornby body, it could be fitted in place and at last it is beginning to look a little like a locomotive (admittedly only a very little…….).

Next comes the wheels and following comments on the Scalefour Society forum, I have modified my technique for doing these. This is intended to get the wheels on the axles more squarely. What is not immediately obvious until you look is that the hubs of wheels project beyond the rims of the wheels, as can be seen below:

This means that the wheel press is actually only pushing on a small part of the wheel and more than that, one close to the axle. With large diameter axles in particular, even a small error here gives a significant change of gauge which can lead to derailments and also a waddling of the loco as it travels down the track. The trick alluded to on the forum was to adjust the wheel press so that it presses on the rim of the wheel by attaching a shim of plasticard.

I am really pleased with the impact that this simple change has had, the wheels are on much more squarely despite being the largest drivers I have fitted.

Fitting the motor, with a High Level gearbox, got me to a working chassis. I am particularly pleased with this one as it is so smooth.

However, having got to a neat working chassis, I obviously had to unpick some of the work that I had made, as I will allude to in the next post.

More Filthy Wagons

Weathering is not something that I find comes easily to me, especially where it needs to be subtle. However, what the OTCM lads have taught me is that unsubtle weathering is easier and a lot more fun! So I have been unsubtle and making a few POs filthy; I wanted to leave the impression that they have seen few decades of hard work and I am really pleased with the results.

All of these have origins in Bachman RTR minerals but with replacement chassis from Colin Welsh’s range (available via the Scalefour Stores – members only I think, so why not sign up!) and some replacement axleboxes from Rumney Models.

I love the effect that you have look really hard to see the lettering but equally once you have, you can just see that this belongs to, or rather belonged to, Partington.

I started with the fibreglass brush to thin down the lettering to give it the feel that it is close to wasted away. Then I sought to represent plank replacements by painting out a few of these with a grey and then added a little texture with dry brushing with track colour (although ultimately the weathering was so heavy this subtly was not worth the effort). The same was undertaken to the insides of the wagon.

Possibly my favourite of the batch which has a number of replacement planks but these must have been done some time ago as they are not much less filthy than the rest of the wagon.

The weathering was completed by a mix of enamel paints; based on black and leather. I started with a lighter colour mix of 2:1 leather/black but then darkened this as I felt that a coal mineral would be a much darker mucky colour so reversed the proportions.

This would originally have been a private owner too, but like almost all PO wagons was absorbed into the BR fleet during the war. Unlike the others that I have recently built, this one has been repainted into BR livery. Whilst many did, it seems likely that many were simply run into the ground and never repainted.

I did these over multiple coats under a very bright light, as otherwise you don’t really know whether you have put much paint on when it is deliberately so thin. The streaking is achieved by using a relatively large flat and stiff brush dipped in thinners. Don’t apply this straight into the model, rub it on the back of your hand to remove the bulk of the thinners and get it down to “slightly moist” before applying it to the model. Make sure it is drawn down vertically, to mimic the movements of water running down the wagon sides.

And a little train of the new stock. This also shows one of the other activities that I have been upto, glazing brake vans and coaches. Boy that is a dull game!

The final stage was then to use weathering powders, rust on the metalwork (mostly on the Partington grey wagon) and black soot. Very small amounts are put on the brush and then speckled on the model with the lightest of pressure because if you blob it straight on it tends to be rather heavy in the points of contact, so it gets a bit blotchy as a result. However, if this is the effect that is required – for example on the top of the buffers for me – then blob away! The powder is then spread across the model with the brush, the more pressure tends to deepen the colour but throughout the powders matt and draw together the underlying colours.

The coal effect in the interior was completed in a similar manner, but with a lot more powder is used and laid on the base a small amount coal dust secured on a matt varnish to leave the impression of a not quite well swept floor from the previous load.

Dia 51 Test Build – Fox Heavyweight Bogies

After the painting disaster, I have been working on the latest version of the Fox Bogies.  The prototype utilised a patented design with pressed steel plates to form the sides and ends which produced a stiff and resilient frame, better than the other contemporary options.   Thus these bogies were very common amongst the pre-grouping companies with most of using them to at least some degree.   

Although there are several model manufacturers that produce Fox bogies, there are no versions that use springing which I now prefer.  As they were the primary form of bogie used by the Highland Railway, I need a few of them and thus I have been putting some effort into getting a top notch solution.  In this regard, I have been assisted greatly by Justin Newitt if Rumney Models whose design of sprung bogie has formed the basis of this. 

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The model has primary suspension on the pin points based on guitar wire springs,

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In addition to this, the design has a sprung bolster, also based on a guitar string suspension.

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The castings I have used on these are from Lochgorm Models and the design has been conceived to enable these to be used either retaining their dampers (the cylindrical appendage at the end of the leaf springs) or with replacements  that are a little more defined.

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The etch is also designed to be provided with full stepboards as below or with only a short section to one end – as they typically were converted to during their life.

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There is full brake gear provided, with a little trick where they do not pass under the axle (remember this view is upside down!) – this enables the wheel to be removed if this is required.

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This is not the first version of these (don’t accuse me of not test building my designs!) and they are very close to done.  The final change is to adjust the primary spring hangers slightly so that they are not visible when they are depressed (you can just see it poking above the sides in line with the axlebox),  The advantage of computer drawn artwork is that things like this can be changed relatively easily.

These, and indeed the rest of the dia 51 full brake, will be made available for sale quite soon.

Previous parts to the test build can be found here:

 

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